*coughs* its actually meant to represent shyness/social anxiety
She likes the crocodile at the end. You can’t like depression. Shyness can still be a sweet personality feature. As long as it doesn’t take full control over you.
I was gonna say…that’s like…anxiety :E
oh, child. you’ve come to the right blogger.
this, is our current prime minister, tony abbott.
he’s been in office for almost a year, now. in that time, he’s managed to piss a lot of people off. myself included. so what exactly makes him so bad?
1) he’s sexist
in regards to abortion, he’s asked “why isn’t it regarded as a national tragedy” rather than the declining life expectancy of aboriginals [x] and that it’s all about women taking “the easy way out”[x]. he’s even gone so far to say that women will never succeed more than men because “their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons” [x]. let’s not forget that he thinks it’s not a woman’s right to refuse sex and that he believes it should be moderated [x]. did i mention he’s the women’s minister? [x] it’s not a joke. i wish.
2) he doesn’t like immigrants
he’s not a fan of immigrants and has been quoted saying such things as “jesus knew that there was a place for everything and it’s not necessarily everyone’s place to come to australia.” [x] let’s not forget, “i don’t think it’s a very christian thing to come in by the back door rather than the front door” [x]. you know, because there’s a queue for when you run for your life.
3) he think’s climate change is made up
he’s said (and god i wish i could make this up) “climate change is absolute crap” [x]. oh and he’s also made a comment on bushfire tragedies in australia saying “fire is a part of the australian experience” [x]. losing your home and family is definitely part of the australian experience, right tony?
4) he’s homophobic
when an 11 year old boy wrote to him about the rights of the gay community in regards to marriage and abbott wrote that he will continue to “support the existing definition of marriage”[x] not only does he refuse to take religious views out of the picture, but he wants to silence the gay community and has said “if you’d asked me for advice i would have said to have, adopt a sort of “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy about all of these things…”[x] he has also said “i probably feel a bit threatened (by homosexuality), as so many people do.”[x] yeah, and we feel threatened by you.
5) he upholds aboriginal stereotypes
about aboriginals, he’s said “there may not be a great job for them but whatever there is, they just have to do it, and if it’s picking up rubbish around the community, it just has to be done.”[x] let’s not forget that if an indigenous person can’t find work, they have no excuse because there are no “cultural excuses”[x]. oh and what does he think about the british invading australia and killing thousands of indigenous people? “western civilisation came to this country in 1788 and i’m proud of that… [x] good job.
6) his view on homelessness
"we just can’t stop people from being homeless if that’s their choice."[x] need i say more?
7) reduction of work rights
"compulsory paid maternity leave? over this government’s dead body, frankly"[x]
8) his way with words
what does he think about the crisis in syria? “it’s not goodies versus baddies, it’s baddies versus baddies”[x] what did he say when he posed closely with a group of teenage girl netballers? “a bit of body contact never hurt anyone”[x] how does he promote his campaign? “if you want to know who to vote for, i’m the guy with the not bad looking daughters”[x] his reaction to a dead australia soldier? “shit happens.”[x] i’ve saved the best/worst until last “no one, however smart, however well educated, however experienced, is the suppository of all wisdom.”[x] ew. let’s hope not.
there are about another thousand pieces of evidence i could use to explain why this man is bad for our country. like how his daughter has received an art scholarship that wasn’t known to other students before she received it [x], while he makes funding cuts to universities[x]. not to mention that when a radio listener called in to comment on how she managed to make ends meet because of his pension cuts by working on as a phone sex operator, he winked[x]. this guy is basically the scum of the earth.
and to close, i’ll leave you with this website. abbotisms is a site that showcases his best worst statements he’s been quoted saying. also, this video from john oliver’s “last week tonight” and it’s brilliant commentary on abbott’s stupidity and overall ignorance.
i hope we’ve all learnt something today.
in grade 8 i did a power point presentation on “whooping cough” and my opening slide was a photo of whoopi goldberg coughing and i was the only person who laughed at it and i couldnt start the presentation for like five minutes because i was laughing too hard at my own joke
I consistently forget these tricks. Now I have a visual. Thanks, Internet.
I wish I’d known this in undergrad.
Sending this to my coworkers on Monday.
The principal of my school is name Mr. Crowley and today I wasn’t thinking and I wore my “Vote Crowley for King of Hell 2014” shirt. I should also mention that I live in the Bible Belt. Whoops.
I think that’s the greatest thing I’ve read all day
I have become so cynical about homestuck and how it’s going lately. I don’t know how to handle this. How do you handle growing increasingly aware of all the problematc shit that is only getting worse as time goes on, of growing increasingly dissatisfied with something that defined and was a huge…excuse me, i know hs has been really shitty lately, but hussie is trying his best to finish up and get us out of the caliborn font. calliborn is a good character but a bad person, he is diverse and has veiws, shitty vews, but there his and they are currently being represented just as callies were. anywho, john’s about to beat his ass for us. so just know it will be back soon. :)
already kind of answered this but
characters do not exist in a vacuum. All the shit caliborn is doing is not being called out, criticized, or in any way commented upon. Caliborn’s awful awful language and general quips at the expense of women has never been called out in canon. The most that got called out one time is john’s reprimation of how he was displaying them in his story.
Hussie has made the mistake so many writers/game developers/movie directors/ script writers make in that they equate showing or bringing up an issue as actually being about an issue, without feeling the need to criticize/have actual consequences for the actions.
It’s not satire, t’s not comedy, it’s just misogyny.
Like ok, let’s compare using homestuck. One of my favorite new scenes in the recent acts is terezi talking about gamzee’s abuse. Gamzee’s abuse here is not made into comedy, and we don’t just see gamzee being an abusive asshole with no commentary. Instead, we see how awful and crushed terezi has become due to his abuse that led her into making a decision she can’t reverse. We see her cry, breakdown, be incredibly emotional due to this in both the first pesterlogs we saw this, and in subsequent scenes.It rings so well with me because i’ve experienced the exact same things, and seeing it treated so realistically and darkly was great.
None of caliborn’s actions have received this treatment. Hell, we haven’t even seen how this type of language/treatment has affected calliope. As much as i love caliborn as a character, how his awfulness is handled in the story is not well done.
I’m just gonna go ahead and bring this up here (and I know I could be TOTALLY wrong about this). But well, I think that I might be able to address the criticism to some extent.
Generally we can view Caliborns actions one of two ways. The first way is that Caliborn is acting as an archetypical parody. A mirror of every douche-bag misogynisitic male you know. A stand in for all the people who we do not condone and whose actions and beliefs are not only deplorable, but utterly disgusting.
Now firstly, we could say that this is used as comedy. In which case what is occurring is similar to what happens in older Mel-brooks parody movies, in which the traits of characters are amplified to an incredible extreme such that they become utterly ridiculous and as such create humor because we recognize them to be so out of place. The major thing I enjoy about Hussies writing is that he allows characters actions and statements to speak for themselves, they don’t need to be explained because we as readers are smart enough to figure it out (or at least that’s how Hussie generally tries to treat us). In the case of parody I think that we are supposed to KNOW that Caliborn is wrong. And that what Hussie is trying to present to us is a souped up hyper parody of the standard mysoginistic douchebag we have all encountered before. It’s similar to old Mel-brooks parody movies, in which the characters we know from classic films are taken to such an extreme that they become utterly ridiculous. The problem with the mysoginists that Hussie SEEMS to be trying to parody here, is that they are already such an extreme and ridiculous group already that it is very difficult to satirize them. I admit it seems to be played straight if you have encountered these kinds of people before, but there is an element of ridiculousness in the most recent update which bespeaks that he is trying his best to make Caliborn as an extreme and ridiculous example of mysoginy as possible. But again, for those who have encountered them before, it seems to hit a bit too close to home.
Alternatively, there is the idea that Caliborn is played straight. Not a hyper parody of a mysoginist, but just a regular mysoginist. This seems to be what the majority of people are viewing it as. And I can understand the concern that simply bringing it up does not lead to solvency. That by not doing anything terrible to Caliborn for being a mysoginist Hussie is tacitly supporting them. That being said, Hussie seems to respect his readers enough that he trusts them to UNDERSTAND right from wrong and that again, Caliborn is utterly deplorable. And yet, for all his wrong doings, we have yet to see him receive his comeuppance. And I think that is intentional to a large degree. And I believe that we HAVE seen to an extent, the fallout from Caliborns words and actions, multiple times. Such as Calliope’s feelings of hopelessness and despair as he continues to berate her and demean her throughout their entire chess exchange. Or how he demeans Jane, body shaming her and causing her severe emotional distress. These are genuinely heart-wrenching things which hit close to home in my opinion and show how much of a terrible influence Caliborn is on other characters. And unfortunately, just like the douche-bags and mysoginists who sit behind their computers consequence free as they shame and demean others, so too has Caliborn gotten away generally scott-free with his bad behavior. And in that sense he is all too real, as he is not only a cosmic entity of destruction and death, but also that person we all know and hate who brings misery to our everyday lives (basically he is Voldemort+Umbridge if that makes any sense).
I could be wrong on these accounts but I don’t think Hussie is supporting mysoginists and fedora-wearing douchebags by having his principle villain be one. He has qualities we recognize as being more human, recognizable and even relatable as shown in his brief “remorse” as his thoughts wander to his lost sister. But at the same time he is a character made to be hated by the reader while still being that, a CHARACTER, and more than just a base stereotype (just as almost all of the cast of mspa is). And there is still one thing to recall. It took a VERY long time to build up the full nature of Terezi and Gamzee’s unhealthy relationship and for it to hit home just how terrible it really was (similar to a very real abusive relationship). And while this is pure conjecture, I think Hussie may be on the same path with Caliborn. To allow us all to see and recognize his actions as well as their full impact on the people around him, as well as (hopefully) the sensation of a sweet just-reward for all the terrible things he has done, both in his cosmic world destroying actions, and in his more palpable inter-personal terrorization.
Or, I could be completely wrong about this, that is a definite possibility
On Homestucks other short-comings? Well, I can’t really speak on those. I just know that for all its problems it has been a fun ride, and while we should not excuse its problems, that doesn’t mean that we should just give up on all the positive things it has done and brought to our lives.
JUST. SHOWING. SOMETHING. IS. NOT. PARODY. OR. SATIRE.
Expecting your audience know your intentions is bad fucking writing. People aren’t inside your fucking head. And here’s the thing- everyone goes into creating what they do with the intentions to make the best thing they can. However, this does not excuse when something is just plain bad or problematic.
All the homestuck characters are exaggerated. They’re characters. But with all the other characters, we see some form of consequence or commentary. Karkat’s romantic obsessiveness is frequently punished and called out. Characters get foils to each other that create commentary (like how Karkat and Dave play off of each other). Caliborn’s misogyny has had no commentary and no consequences. It’s not even a fucking thing really outside of the 4th wall. Calliope never really mentions or shows any actual consequences of his misogynistic actions- none of her self esteem problems are ever shown to have a gender slant to them. You know whatspending years wth an abusive misogynist would do? You fucking internalize that shit. While caliborn’s actions and abusive behavior is generally handled pretty well, the misogyny is not. And now she’s dead and very separate from the story, so now he has even less options for foils. John has only called him out on how he treated women in his story, and not his awful language and just general attitude towards women.
I don’t need comeuppance every second in the story. I want consequences, I want acknowledge that his behavior is awful and toxic, I want this subject to be treated with the respect it deserves. If he actually treated it with respect, he could make actual satire or comedy. Gamzee sure as hell hasn’t gotten comeuppance but you don’t see me complaining about his abusive plot with terezi because that area is handled with respect. The second is became known as a thing we saw consequences. Hell, before it became a thing we saw consequences.
And yes, by not having commentary or comeuppance or consequences, he has contributed to misogyny. Want proof? The sheer number of fucking people who have tried to tell me, a woman, that I shouldn’t be offended or feel uncomfortable with Caliborn’s behavior. Just like every boy who tells women they shouldn’t be offended at rape jokes, or kitchen jokes, or 500 other displays of misogyny. When you show something without commentary or consequence, it becomes problematic. It validates those who believe in it, and turns the subject into a joke, punching down at those affected, rather than punching up at the fucking misogynists. There’s a way to do social commentary humor. This ain’t it.
From the way he’s handled the abusive plotlines, save perhaps for the tavros/vriska ones (though that’s another debate), it makes me think he may have very real experience with emotional and maybe other types of abuse. What he does not have and will never have, is experience with misogyny. And it really, really, shows.Pretty interesting debate. Homestuck being unfinished is a pretty big part of the problem. On the one hand a lot of smackdowns and ‘here are the consequences of your actions, shithead’ moments have taken a long time to come, but to good effect sometimes (thinking mostly about Vriska, but that’s up for debate, yeah). We’ve already had John call Caliborn out once, I’m sure it will happen again. (Another thing: an author is not responsible for fans normalizing a character’s shitty actions! Even when Hussie condemns things explicitly, there will always be people to do it. I’m thinking about the Openbound author comments…) On the other hand, a lot of subjects in the comic have been swept under the rug in pretty shitty ways (disabilities…) and even though I would not want Hussie to do any moral handholding I’m also afraid that he’s going to fuck up somewhere dealing with a touchy subject.
Except the lack of consequence is not something that has anything to do with homestuck being unfinished???
Before we even knew terezi was being abused, we saw it’s effects. The second we learned, we saw it’s effects. And we continued to see the effects. The storyline is so tightly wound in the main plot and the characters that it would literally be impossible to remove this plot point without having to rewrite so much. THAT. IS. CONSEQUENCE.
But, and once again, i’ll present the same experiment. If Caliborn was just an abusive asshole, and not a misogynistic abusive asshole, what in the story would need to be changed? Nothing. Literally. Nothing. His misogyny has no bearing or consequence on any of the plot or the characters. It could be removed seamlessly! I swear I could write the same panels of Caliborn and just remove all the awful misogyny, and it would be just as funny if not funnier.
Caliborn is not a new character. Hussie has had time after time after chance to treat this subject with respect and he hasn’t. Caliborn is nothing but an awful stereotype at this point, a strawman. And strawmans on either side (either a straw feminist or straw misogynist) only show disrespect for the issue.
Caliborn’s current writng is sexst. Nothing he could ever add would make Caliborn’s current writing not sexist.
so youre sayin the effect he had on Jane doesnt count as in-comic consequences of his behavior? what, was she so self conscious that she was due to have a breakdown regardless of his cruel words? I dont think so man. caliborn played a huge part in her breaking, and maybe hussie shoulda made that more clear for the audience who suffers from the inability to connect cause and effect, but that might make for simplistic writing.
idk man I think hussies intent is to make caliborn a caricature of a type of person who is considered evil, and people do say that good writing *shows* rather than tells, but I’m not just gonna discount your opinion cause I thought hussies intentions were clear
tbh I think that when a satirical criticism of a mindset cant be exaggerated enough to make it clear how ridiculous the real thing is, we’re probably too used to the real thing. maybe, even caliborns exaggerated power fantasy is too reminiscent of the actual masculine power fantasy thats normalized in our society to be seen as obviously bizarre
honestly, I think hussie knows his audience, and how most of us can tell that caliborn’s ideas are wrong. but I think there’s something to your opinion cause, honestly, caliborn’s ideals do match the ideals reflected in the protagonists that current audiences enjoy.
like, oh god, have you seen god of war?
I’m not disagreeing with you, but I think that hussie is probably writing in a way that assumes that the audience will get his intentions. The trouble is, and I didnt really see it until you brought it up, the audience… actually might not interpret it that way.
I think it’s very much the same as his “Caucasian” joke. He intended to satirize the pointlessness of racial disputes in the fandom (or so he said he did, I guess), but the actual problem of racism is so real that it’s hard to tell that his intention wasn’t for racism when the context of the fandom issues isn’t actually there on the page.
To me, its clear in the way that Caliborn is childish and evil that Hussie thinks that Caliborn’s opinions are also childish and evil. But people who don’t already have that same view might read it as “Caliborn is childish and evil, but also he is masculine!” because they unfortunately are used to the normalization of misogyny.
Maybe this is a case of “mark twain was racist because he wrote a book from the point of view of an uneducated racist southerner”. The author’s message gets lost because the character is too realistic.
and I buy racists in the american south as being realistic
but to be honest, until I read your idea, I didnt consider that maybe there are too many caliborns in the real world for caliborn in homestuck to come off as a joke
I don’t know man. I’m kind of just thinking this out as I go. Sorry to interrupt
Well somebody finally gets it!
Every school should be like mine: four hours a day, three time slots you can attend (morning at 8, afternoon at 12, evening at 5), online classes in case you miss a day, english and math direct instruction, bus stop close by, you can graduate early if you want, you can switch time slots if you need to, and they respect if you have a mental disorder/want to be addressed by a different name or by diff pronouns. You can listen to music, too, and everyone is super chill. Small classes where everyone minds their own business and gets their work done. That is how school should be.
Heres an idea!
Go to bed at a reasonable hour.
Jfc our ancestors beat up bears and dinosaurs at the crack of dawn, and you lot are whining about “SCHOOLS UNFAIR CHANGE LESSON TIMES”
Alright buddy i’m gonna need you to sit the fuck down because i’m gonna lay some shit on you. I’m sure you had a great time in high school or college since you had the nerve to tell everybody to go to bed at a reasonable time. I don’t know if you’ve ever thought about it like this but maybe the reason why we don’t go to bed at a reasonable hour is because we can’t? WOW SHOCKING I KNOW.
Now I don’t know what high school was like for everyone else but for me it was fucking hell. During my senior year in high school i had over 3 hours worth of homework everyday. I get off school at 8 pm because of after school extra classes. I get home at around 9:30 and shower and it’s already 11. Well better do my homework if I want to pass this class!!! Time sure does fly when I do homework because wow it’s 3 am already. Time to finally sleep because wow humans need to sleep to have a healthy mind???? And then DING it’s 6am better wake up for school to start this routine all over again for the next 10 months. Over the span of my high school life I had over 10 emotional break downs and depression because of school. Shocking right? School can actually make some people sad and angry.
How the fuck would you feel if you were crammed in a classroom with over 40 students learning the same thing except you couldn’t understand shit so you had to study extra hard and spend more time on your homework than everyone else? Terrible right. Not everybody breezed thru school like you did.
School is different for everybody and everybody’s stress levels are different. Some schools give a fuck ton of homework while some don’t. Some people had fun in school and some didn’t. And I don’t know if you’ve ever thought about it like this but some people actually work after school. Wow students making a living to support their family that’s fucking crazy I didn’t even know that was possible. And don’t even get me started on AP students.
“Jfc our ancestors beat up bears and dinosaurs at the crack of dawn,” Are you seriously comparing us to our ancestors which we had nothing to do with? WHO GIVES A SHIT. DID THEY HAVE OVER 8 HOURS OF SCHOOL? NO. DID THEY HAVE THE STRESS OF NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO FOR YOUR FUTURE? PROBABLY. BUT IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE WORKED HARDER THAN THEM, WE HAVE A TOUGHER LIFE, ADULTS EXPECT US TO AMOUNT TO SOMETHING BUT WILL WE? WE DON’T KNOW. WE HAVE MORE STRESS ON OUR MINDS THAN A PSYCHOPATH WITH A MENTAL DISORDER. AND YET WE’RE STILL LIVING, BREATHING AND WORKING HARD SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT GOING TO BED AT A REASONABLE HOUR BECAUSE WE FUCKING CAN’T.
HOLY SHIT THANK YOU
thank you SO MUCH //applause
ALSO DINOSAURS WERE LONG EXTINCT BEFORE HUMANS EXSISTED
Okay but if you’re really struggling, you can make time. I have three, read it, THREE AP classes, and Harvard Model Congress, and Drama, which is a total of about 4 hours for just those two clubs after school. I have to wake up at 4:45am every morning because of my brother’s JROTC, and because we’re so far from our school with only one car and no bus system. So what do I do? I do a majority of my work in the huge block of time i have in the mornings (which is about 2 and a half hours), and then i have anytime after 6 for myself, which gives me 3/4 more hours of work and I can go to bed at 10. I wake up tired, but not overly so, and I’m pretty stress-free. I’m not saying everyone’s schedule works out like mine, but with careful planning you can maximize your time. Also, you’re absolutely right. Some kids have to support their families. Trust me, all teachers know kids would be better off it school started later. My parent’s are both teachers, and they fucking know. Every school board knows that school should scientifically start later. Why doesn’t it? Because some kids have to work afternoons to feed their families, and they decided it would be better for kids to work afternoons and stay up late than work ass-early in the mornings and go to school AFTER WORK. My mom’s old school board actually tried to move back the school day to start at 10:30am, and a bunch of kids complained because it ate into their work hours!